open letter both to steem/hive:Bridge is bridge, road is road!

in hive-165526 •  9 days ago  (edited)

为文章清晰,本公开信分开为中英文2个版本:

For the sake of clarity, this letter is divided into two versions in Chinese and English:

中文版本: 《给 steem/hive 社区的公开信:桥归桥,路归路!》 | hive
English Edition:< open letter both to steem/hive:Bridge is bridge, road is road!> | hive

When steem finished HF23, both steem and hive complete their own HF23 hard fork, which means that the original steem community split is officially over.

As for the new steem / hive , there are already two independent communities / platforms, each with its own rules and supporters.

Then, I will give both you an old Chinese saying: "bridge to bridge, road to road!"

Everyone has their own preferences and principles, and I respect them; just like before the split, I support the split or hard fork and hope that the two communities can move forward according to their own ideas.Open Letter to steemians for HF22.2/22.5(针对软分叉22.x的一封公开信)

Obviously, although the split arrived as scheduled, the tragedy is that the chaos replaced the principles and development.

In this open letter, I don't want to discuss too complicated problems to avoid digression and loss of focus.

"bridge to bridge, road to road!"

  1. If you like hive, please go to hive network, respect the rules of hive, help hive community development, please! And ME TOO!
  2. If you like steem, please go to steem network, respect the rules of steem, help steem community development, please! And ME TOO!
  3. Don't be in the steem / hive community and tell the other community which you unlike what to do! And ME TOO!

After steem / hive has completed the HF23 hardfork, I will:

  1. Follow the rules of hive community and maintain the operation of all my accounts under the hive rules;
  2. Follow the rules of the steem community and maintain the operation of all my accounts under the steem rules;
  3. Respect anyone's speech and behavior in the steem / hive community, unless he/she restricts my speech and behavior;
  4. Any downvote my post, no matter in the steem / hive community, I will downvote back, which is fair;
  5. Both in the steem / hive community, I would like to express my gratitude to anyone who helps and supports me, which is '感恩';
  6. Both in the steem / hive community, I will oppose the double standards of malicious bullying of small accounts, which is justice;
  7. I will try to apply for witnesses both in the steem / hive community. Although it is unlikely to enter the TOP 20, I am willing to follow the two communities for freedom of expression and justice;
  8. Any words and actions that force me to choose to stand in line among the steem / hive communities are bullying to me, and I will give direct feedback!

STEEM witness:@justyy @steemchiller @dev.supporters @dlike @roadofrich @symbionts @steem-agora @future.witness @hinomaru-jp @steem-dragon @hoasen @matreshka @maiyude @protoss20 @juddsmith079 @parse @cryptoking777 @menacamel @rlawlstn123 @goodguy24 @agirl10000 @aheadofslow @bostonawesome @car2001 @cloudysun @coronashallgo @eastooowest @flyingfly1 @happylife123 @high46 @hunger365 @jumphigh @nicetry001 @night11pm @onestepaday @paintingclub @respect888 @toke2049 @waitforyou1

HIVE: @gtg @blocktrades @yabapmatt @steempeak @roelandp @themarkymark @gtg @someguy123 @good-karma @therealwolf @anyx @ausbitbank @aggroed @thecryptodrive @cervantes @ocd-witness @steempress @drakos @arcange @pharesim @followbtcnews @netuoso @curie @emrebeyler @lukestokes.mhth @abit

@steemitblog @steemcurator01 @justinsunsteemit @hiveio

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I agree with you, people who hate steem must just go to hive and vise versa since there is a split already. @huaren-news

yes, you are right. @huaren.news :)

like both or like only one, it's OK. but dont fuck the other

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buy upvote on you post, you can recover RP over 0

Buying upvotes is a sure-fire way to get downvotes. That's terrible advice.

dont let your enemy decide you opt

yes, your HIVE is yours asset! I agree with you

  ·  8 days ago Reveal Comment

You're not paying attention to what he said. He is technically correct. The moment the blockchain comes into existence, IF the tokens were in his account once live and then they get relocated it would be just as much "theft" as anything else.

If any of it is theft then what makes the difference is sequence. In the very second of the blockchain's existence were the tokens attributed to an account name and then relocated or not? That is what matters.

However, the Hive founder Blocktrades clearly pointed out that he believes Justin and Steem witnesses were well within their legal rights to fork the coins out.

Here is proof:

https://hive.blog/cryptocurrency/@blocktrades/the-legal-basis-of-cryptocurrency-forks

looks like you do a lot of news, and know stuff i am trying to learn what did this account do to lose all his steem https://steemd.com/@mottler he is not active from 2016 so he did nothing except owning over 2M steem. no one on steem gave me an answer to this, and i think it is really important.

it's funny. who is the owner of @mottler? he got the HIVE airdrop:)

  ·  9 days ago (edited)

from what i understand, he was one of the miners at the beginning. if you check all his accounts, he never voted, never commented, never moved any of his steem. i am not even sure was he here when the social network started. maybe he even lost the keys... but for sure had nothing to do with anything. Except the fact that he had over 2M steem that he did not use. to me this looks like witnesses seen the opportunity to take 500.000$ from the account that will not make fus about it. 25.000$ per witness in one day, not a bad deal if you can get away with it.

Also, why try to transfer the funds to an anonymous account as liquid...which they weren't before. Why not move them to an account like the SPS which can't be moved without a hardfork? Yes. This has heist written all over it.

good question

may someone know about it

This is a very bad report card for Steem.
How can I trust the Steem Witnesses as investors when they can take my money away so easily?

如果你不相信steem,你可以去hive。

反之亦然!

如果你都不信任,现在blurt?blurd?新的硬分叉已经快照,你可以去。

或者你都不信任,你可以选择离开。

在别人的平台上,指手画脚,那只是弱智干的事情!

  ·  7 days ago (edited)

Vielen Dank für Ihre Antwort, auch wenn sie meine Frage nicht im Entferntesten beantwortet hat.
An deutschen Schulen hat man immer bei so etwas folgendes gesagt: "Danke. Setzen! Fünf!"
Ich werde aber trotzdem Ihren Vorschlag folgen und nicht weiter mein privates Vermögen in Steem investieren, da ich mir hier nicht sicher sein kann, dass es nicht von Ihnen oder einem anderen gierigen Witnesses gestohlen wird.

在别人的平台上,指手画脚,那只是弱智干的事情!

Ich dulde keine Scherze über Minderheiten. Was Sie hier zum Ausdruck bringen, ist gegenüber Behinderten Menschen sehr unhöflich.

Seien Sie froh, dass Sie gesund sind und schämen Sie sich für diese Aussage!

right

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no brain duck

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